State Pension petition

by Steve Lintern
(Cardiff)

Please read, publicise and link to this petition below. Thank you.
eptitions.direct.gov.uk.


Keep the State Pension age at 60 for women and 65 for men
Responsible department: Department for Work and Pensions



The State Pension age for men and women must remain at 65 and 60 respectively. No current or future governments are to change that. If people are living longer that does not change the fact that a 60 year old is still 60 years old - with all the hardships and weariness that come with age. Working for 40 years is enough for anyone, but women and men are different. Women carry human life. This is not an equality issue (maybe an equality of misery issue). We do not want our mothers, sisters, daughters and wives to be forced to work until they are older than 60 years old. The people of this country will do what they can to help this country. But we will not be forced to work until we drop. Birth, school, work, death. There has got to be more to life than that.

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Equal State Pension for all

by Gill
(Hampshire)

The increase in State Pension to £140 should be applied to all state pensioners - and not just to new pensioners coming on board. It is unfair and wrong to have a 2 tier state pension scheme.


Comment from Pat at Babyboomers-retiring

Gill makes a good comment which I have to agree with.

I thought the whole idea of introducing a flat rate pension was to simplify it so that pension credit and other benefits like winter fuel payments would no longer be necessary.

Having a two tier system can only complicate matters further.

The other worrying issue is that people who have paid into SERPS and subsequently would expect to receive extra income on top of the state pension look set to lose out. Some will get less with the flat rate than they would have done otherwise.

And what's going to happen to winter fuel payments? Are they going to do away with them or will some get it and others not.

I am guessing that another complicated system will emerge from the ashes of the old pension system.

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My thoughts on Pension Proposals

by sandie
(east)

I feel a huge march on Westminster coming on. How can they dare to treat us so unfairly? I for one will not sit back and see those born just after me be given an extra 50 quid a week.

Comment from Pat at Babyboomers-retiring

You're quite right Sandie it seems so unfair. I think we will have to keep lobbying our local M.P.'s and anyone else that will listen until they revise the proposal.

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My thoughts on Pension Proposals

by JFHM
(Yorkshire)

They are ill thought through. Some of the proposals appear to be sound but the underlying philosophy is flawed. The proposals are not fair in that they seriously penalise existing pensioners and those who have worked and contributed to a state basic pension, SERPS and SP2. Married women with children who did not work for long periods while they were bringing up their children knew what to expect when they took that decision just as those who consumed all their income and made no provision for their retirement did. Why should they benefit at the expense of the prudent. The parable of "The wise and foolish virgins" comes to mind.
This is state socialism of Brownian proportions and will add to the state handout culture which I thought this government was keen to move the nation away from.

SERPS and SP2 payments should be met in-line with the contributions made and enhanced on the same basis as the basic pension.

The same basic pension should be paid to all based on their years of paying NI. It is acceptable to close the SP2 scheme

The retirement age for women should be brought in-line with those for men and the recognised retirement age raised more rapidly to reflect increased life expectancy.

If we cannot afford this then we cannot afford the generous handouts to those who have not contributed and it is simply not acceptable or fair to do otherwise.

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my thoughts on pension proposals

by Jan
(Cambridge)

I feel let down by this Government. It has always promoted itself as a champion of fairness and human rights, yet the future for those in the old scheme will be a very difficult one as their pensions will not keep pace with the cost of living.

Comment from Pat at Babyboomers-retiring

Absolutely right Jan and it will certainly not help the estimated 1.8 million pensioners already living in poverty according to Age Uk.

I think the only answer is that we keep lobbying and protesting until an acceptable proposal is put forward.

We Babyboomers are the biggest generation and we have to recognize there is power in numbers. Until it's actually put in place we have time to make life a little uncomfortable for the Government. We need to have a voice.

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my thoughts on pension proposals

by Angela
(scotland)

I think that it is total discrimination against a select few.
How can any government single out a certain age group to penalise. There must be a more fair way of dealing with this? If we discriminated like this in the work place we would be breaking laws yet the Government have discriminated twice against women in their late fifties.

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My thoughts on Pension Proposals

by J COURT
(UK)

Grossly unfair.

I retired in 2007 before the 30 years contributions rule came in. I receive only 85% pension which is less than people with less years contributions than me.

I have more than 30 years but am penalised. Now a double wammy - not eligible for the flat rate pension - lose out again!

Will receive less than people with a lot less years contributions.

HOW CAN THAT BE RIGHT?


Comment by Pat at Babyboomers-retiring:

You're right it does seem grossly unfair. I don't know your current circumstances and whether or not you are in receipt of a company pension but notice that you live in the U.K.

If your income is below the minimum state pension you may be entitled to claim pension credit.

This is an entitlement that many pensioners are failing to claim and it's certainly worth checking out even if you are in receipt of a small company pension.

The Guarantee Credit works by topping up your weekly income to:

£142.70 if you're single
£217.90 if you have a partner

These amounts may be more if you're disabled, have caring responsibilities or certain housing costs, such as mortgage interest payments.

To find out whether you would be eligible go to
Go to www.direct.gov.uk site to the pension credit page where you will find further information.

If you scroll down the page you will find a link to obtain a Pension Credit Estimate. Click on it and this will take you to a Pension Credit Calculator which will give you an idea of whether you would qualify.

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My Take on the Flat Rate State Pension Reform

by Rick
(Falkirk)

I find it difficult to take in the fact that some people will get this higher rate and have really contributed nothing financially in to the system.
They may have been unemployed or some other cause through no fault of their own which is unfortunate but why should the people who have earned and paid all their lives support this.
There are a lot of people out there who have never held down a steady job in their lives, and did not want to, going to benefit.

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